My Response in bold - UPDATED!!!!
Nunya wrote: Okay, okay.. here I am, 'NUNYA' in the flesh.. it's just so funny now..
#1. I am not totally paranoid that you are out to get me- I never had any dealing with you per se.
Per se? I have dealt with you for years. I didn't know you could turn and be so cruel before recently... but, I guess you never know people.
Nunya wrote: I wrote the original post- kind of light-heartedly- (or so I thought) because I am 'one of the forbidden' from the PCOS living website. I was 'forbidden' before I got the chance to really get into it for questions I asked.
I didn't forbid anyone from that site. I don't administrate that site. And FYI: The sites server was given emails sent from anonymous names and with those emails the server (the people that PCOSLiving PAY to host their site, that is) banned certain IP addresses. They did that with hard evidence of harrassing emails and the IP addresses that were on those emails. YOUR user name doesn't say "banned" on PCOSLiving, which it would if any moderator there had banned you...
Nunya wrote: FYI- I read BOTH books..
After he sent them to you for free out of the goodness of his heart. Because he wanted to help you. (Whether or not you read them is beyond me... you certainly didn't understand them that is for sure).
Nunya wrote: also FYI_ everything Ian is saying- has ALREADY been said and worked with- including testing..
That's not true. You're very very wrong on that note.
Nunya wrote: the basis that really pisses people off about this new dawn stuff is that you people act like he is the MESSIAH of PCOS or something. And in turn- he is getting PAID big bucks for those buying these tests..
He has done nothing but work to help us all, to the point of putting himself in debt. He pays a nurse or phlebotomist to come to your home or work to do the blood work for this test. he pays to have the bloodword overnighted. He pays for all the machinery and equipment. He is, just like business medical and otherwise, operating in debt right now. He is not making any money. But when he does, why shouldn't he? My doctor does. Every other medical person I know does. Heck, about the only person I know who works really hard for NOTHING, for the reason that I want to help others, is ME!!!!
Nunya wrote: Tests- that I KNOW are super similar to a few that have already been out there for YEARS. See, I not only DID research- I also found test that take insurance.. and seen results from both. (Yes, I have friends on both sides of the camp.. )
???? You have no evidence of this. That is because it is simply not the case. You probably are reading about allergy tests. That is NOT what this is.
Nunya wrote: My intention was not to bother or harass with that post- I just remember trying to follow a link that you said 'we should really check out' it had come in an email or something.. I tried to look at it- and got that same message 'forbidden 403'
Why wouldn't you email me so I could help you? Why would you post a nasty note anonymously if it was meant well?? If you are not a person who has sent harrassing emails there is NO reason your IP address would have been blocked by the server owner. NO REASON!
#2I dont think you know who I am- you never helped me at all- you never ever talked to me- never sent birthday messages- or whatever- so I think you think I am someone else.
Actually, the birthday message was for your son. But, yes I do know who you are. Don't fool yourself. I also assisted you with issues you were having just the other day. Because I am a nice person and a professional. Don't come and tear down my personal writings, my soul bearing brutally honest blog and try to compare to how I work on a professional basis. I have every right to speak my mind just like you do.
Let's talk hiding behind some fake user name.. yep- sure did.. why?? Why not? My messages were GENERAL about New Dawn- not at you- however.. now I am upset..
General??? Like how you called us a "crazy cult" and other things on other PUBLIC blogs??? How personal is that? How general is that?? (You weren't upset when you called us that??? And tell me, what did I do to you to deserve that? NOTHING. Not one thing. Not here nor anywhere else. You dished it out and now you can't take it)! I have never called ANYONE a crazy cult before. That is the most insulting thing I could imagine next to being called Satan! Oh my. You're so off base!! YOU have attacked us personally when all we did was try to HELP you! I said absolutely NOTHING about you or anyone else until the attacks started against me. And why can't I defend myself?? For what reason should you be able to bash me all you want and me not be able to respond??
Nunya wrote: The main reason- the way you and the other cohorts PERSONALLY attack folks.. you did it to me when I was still on PCOSLiving.. you sent an email to a friend of yours- who is also my friend- and refered to me (or who you thought was me) as a troll!!
FIRST OF ALL... a person sent me (SENT ME AN EMAIL... not vice versa!) an email specifically asking why YOU were banned from the PCOSLiving site. I told her that IF you were it was by the server owner and not me or anyone else there. (And again, WHY should I not be able to defend myself of accusations that are not true and you should be able to just do and say whatever you want while I do NOTHING to defend myself? The only thing I have said is the TRUTH... period).
I went on to label you as a troll, which is a term that has more meaning than just an ugly short man who lives under a bridge... A troll on the internet is someone who poses as "supportive" or whatever on one website to get info but then goes behind your back to other sites and people and cuts you down (like being all nicey nice on PCOSLiving but going to other websites and calling us names like CULT and what not). That is not just me calling you a name. That is a term that is used on the internet. We have used it for YEARS in the email list and forum world.
By the way, I never called ANYONE else a troll so if you think I don't know who you are yet you're crazy.
Nunya wrote: Name calling- reeeeal mature. You down people's choices if they are not new dawn-
No, I defend myself against people who CUT on ME and other people for OUR choices. You can choose whatever you want. But don't you go calling me names like a CULT behind my back and expect me NOT to come back with the truth. I WILL defend myself and I will tell the truth.
And as for you people who email me and post on my blog and complain about me???? THAT IS WHAT I "DOWN".
ike the stuff you said about 'Weight Watchers' Who are you to tell people they want to be sick because they are trying something other than new dawn.. before you found new dawn- did you want to be sick??
I said that ON MY BLOG and no where else. Because again, this is MY space and where I will talk freely about whatever I want. Did you read the description??? It says if you get offended please DON'T READ IT. But you have not only read it you have posted nasty grams on ALL of our blogs. GET A LIFE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!! Go do your own blog. And stay away from me. Don't come to MY space and cut down what I write. Get over it!
Nunya wrote: Any of you- that goes for Tulin too... It's GREAT you guys love this so much and could afford the test and all-
I can't afford the test. Who ever said I could????????? You are not getting your information from a very reliable source.
Nunya wrote: but it's not right to downgrade others..
And you do it why?? It's right for YOU but it's not right for me to defend myself? Like you should talk. You downgraded and attacked me and I had done NOTHING to you. When I read you referring to me as a cult member I was SHOCKED and horrified because I had done NOTHING against you! You decided that I was bad before I defended myself or stated the truth about any of you. You just think I am going to lay down and say, "okay, go ahead, kick me... I won't fight back..." That is insanity!
Nunya wrote: You claim to be so nice and spiritual- but yet tell people to jump off a cliff, and say evil things.. then talk about being Christ-like of all things.. Well - that's all very interesting.
Again, my blog, my right to write whatever I want. You hurt me with your words on other VERY PUBLIC websites before I ever even realized that you were anything other than a friend and supporter, because you are a mean spirited person, Then you follow me to MY blog and continue to cut me down here???? You people are obsessed. Not going to be happy until you see blood? Yeah, I stand by my words. Go jump off a cliff. I want nothing to do with you. You and anyone else who treats other human beings like this.
Nunya wrote: #3The very reason I got on here- and what all THREE of you say "why come out here and read the blogs, why bother with us...??" Because someone is always saying SOMETHING about it in the regular PCOS boards.. boards that should be SEPARATE from New dawn.
Where??? What are you talking about??? My blog is being talked about on any PCOSA list? That is not the case. You're full of it.
Nunya wrote: PCOSA STILL has the advertisement for New Dawn.. and that's palin WRONG. No one can dispute it though because the president is part of the gleasome-threesome that run this racket.
The entire board of directors approved the ad just like any other ad when someone PAYS the PCOSA to advertise. DUH. The PCOSA has to get money from somewhere, and it isn't getting it from all the people who do NOT support it or bother to join as a paying member. You refer to yourself as a "member" but you're not and you never have been. A list member. A user of all the free resources that are provided. But NOT a supporter. (But then people like that seem to find a way to not only NOT financially support the organization but also to make jobs like MINE more difficult....... you may as well SPIT on me. I have worked for you all for FREE for over 5 years only to turn around to get trampled on by people who don't even help the organization stay alive!!!!)
Are all the other ads on the site wrong too???? You want to PAY to have them all removed? Or you just want to see the organization FAIL because they can't pay their bills?? What have you ever done for them besides bitch?
Nunya wrote: #4Happy with myself.. yes, I sure am. I don't spit on anyone or stab them in the back- how can I when I don't and never had PERSONAL dealing with you??
That is NOT true. You have had the advantage of knowing who I am long before I knew who you were. But now, yes, I know who you are and yes I have personally dealt with and helped you. Do you want to continue to lie about it here?
Nunya wrote: Oh and- I do have a conscience- it tells me to WARN others of this weird group. I have been pretty sucessful too..
Glad you're so proud of making my life difficult. At least you're done denying it. Wierd group? Grow up and go find yourself someone else to harrass.
Nunya wrote: One of you - I think it was Kerim said Marie should 'form a club' well- yeah some of us sort of have.. we support each other- are open to ideas and all questions.. I mean NOTHING, NOTHING is a 100% cure- NOTHING. I dont' care if Ian walks on water with his hat backwards- there are some- me, included that don't buy this whole basis..
So, now you're penalizing ME for what others have said and done? nice!!!!!!!! So, are you all a "wierd group" too? No one is forcing you to buy anything. All we have ever asked was for enough respect for fellow women with PCOS to NOT RIP THEM TO SHREDS just because you disagree with their choices. Yes, that is right. YOU RIPPED US TO SHREDS and you may as well stop denying it. I have the proof. I didn't even know you disagreed until I found the poison you were spewing about me on other sites.
Nunya wrote: #5I have to admit- I don't sleep well at night- but that has to do with my kid not sleeping..
The kid that I wished happy birthday to? How about when I have always been kind to you and even called you "neighbor" since we are? No, you're right. I don't know who you are. Nice though that you're little game has caused others to not like me and attack me because they're sucked in by your lies.
Nunya wrote: #6THREE fingers pointing at ME?? Wow- that's alot of fingers!! Oh- I know- it's the holy trinity of New Dawn.. Tulin, Tarra and Kerim.. I get it- THAT'S PRETTY CLEVER!!!
Oh my... you are out for blood aren't you? That is plain insanity! calling us a cult and now calling us the holy trinity???? Good grief where do you get this stuff? There was no hiden message in my comment about fingers pointing back at you. It means that for everything you are sitting there saying I am so wrong for YOU have done at least 3 things wrong. It means that perhaps you should take a look in the mirror before you cast judgement on others.
Nunya wrote: #7JEALOUS??- now that's the funniest of all.. girll one thing your blog has shown me- is that I have nothing to complain about... I DO feel bad for all you are dealing with- it's horrible and you are really strong to be going through a pregnancy after every thing else- you are.. so for that- I tip my hat..
Nice. You have a kind bone left? Oh, how nice of you. I wouldn't want you to tip your hat at me, thanks.
Nunya wrote: I have done several things that make me proud.. just because people have questions and such- well it doesn't mean they are bored or their life is so bad they have to pick at someone.. why are questions picking on you?? Why don't you just answer them- or not.
What questions have I NOT answered???? WHO are you talking about??? You seem to be accusing me of things that I don't even have any idea WHAT you're talking about!
Nunya wrote: Blog- unfortunately are public- so yes- it's YOUR blog- and yes- of course you can say what you want- but then others can read it pubically and post.. it's just the way it is.
I don't blog for people like YOU to make nasty comments. I blog for people who are nice and who want to read about my inner most feelings without cutting ME down in my own space. It just says more about YOU that you can't stay away when you apparently don't agree with or like anything I have to say.
Nunya wrote: But you all have given me something to think about, in all seriousness... I should start MY OWN blog so I can rip people and criticize freely.. now wouldn't that be FUN!??!
You can do what you want. If you think I will go and read anything else you have written anywhere you're crazy. I read the cult thing ONCE and that was enough. It was like ripping a person's heart out. Someone who is nice to your face and nasty behind your back. NO THANKS. You can write whatever you want about me. I will not be reading it. I will NOT follow you around and cut you down on YOUR blog. I don't play that game. I never have. If you think I have you are severly mistaken. I didn't write about YOU until you singled ME OUT either. THANK YOU for that.
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#1. I am not totally paranoid that you are out to get me- I never had any dealing with you per se.
Per se? I have dealt with you for years. I didn't know you could turn and be so cruel before recently... but, I guess you never know people.
Nunya wrote: I wrote the original post- kind of light-heartedly- (or so I thought) because I am 'one of the forbidden' from the PCOS living website. I was 'forbidden' before I got the chance to really get into it for questions I asked.
I didn't forbid anyone from that site. I don't administrate that site. And FYI: The sites server was given emails sent from anonymous names and with those emails the server (the people that PCOSLiving PAY to host their site, that is) banned certain IP addresses. They did that with hard evidence of harrassing emails and the IP addresses that were on those emails. YOUR user name doesn't say "banned" on PCOSLiving, which it would if any moderator there had banned you...
Nunya wrote: FYI- I read BOTH books..
After he sent them to you for free out of the goodness of his heart. Because he wanted to help you. (Whether or not you read them is beyond me... you certainly didn't understand them that is for sure).
Nunya wrote: also FYI_ everything Ian is saying- has ALREADY been said and worked with- including testing..
That's not true. You're very very wrong on that note.
Nunya wrote: the basis that really pisses people off about this new dawn stuff is that you people act like he is the MESSIAH of PCOS or something. And in turn- he is getting PAID big bucks for those buying these tests..
He has done nothing but work to help us all, to the point of putting himself in debt. He pays a nurse or phlebotomist to come to your home or work to do the blood work for this test. he pays to have the bloodword overnighted. He pays for all the machinery and equipment. He is, just like business medical and otherwise, operating in debt right now. He is not making any money. But when he does, why shouldn't he? My doctor does. Every other medical person I know does. Heck, about the only person I know who works really hard for NOTHING, for the reason that I want to help others, is ME!!!!
Nunya wrote: Tests- that I KNOW are super similar to a few that have already been out there for YEARS. See, I not only DID research- I also found test that take insurance.. and seen results from both. (Yes, I have friends on both sides of the camp.. )
???? You have no evidence of this. That is because it is simply not the case. You probably are reading about allergy tests. That is NOT what this is.
Nunya wrote: My intention was not to bother or harass with that post- I just remember trying to follow a link that you said 'we should really check out' it had come in an email or something.. I tried to look at it- and got that same message 'forbidden 403'
Why wouldn't you email me so I could help you? Why would you post a nasty note anonymously if it was meant well?? If you are not a person who has sent harrassing emails there is NO reason your IP address would have been blocked by the server owner. NO REASON!
#2I dont think you know who I am- you never helped me at all- you never ever talked to me- never sent birthday messages- or whatever- so I think you think I am someone else.
Actually, the birthday message was for your son. But, yes I do know who you are. Don't fool yourself. I also assisted you with issues you were having just the other day. Because I am a nice person and a professional. Don't come and tear down my personal writings, my soul bearing brutally honest blog and try to compare to how I work on a professional basis. I have every right to speak my mind just like you do.
Let's talk hiding behind some fake user name.. yep- sure did.. why?? Why not? My messages were GENERAL about New Dawn- not at you- however.. now I am upset..
General??? Like how you called us a "crazy cult" and other things on other PUBLIC blogs??? How personal is that? How general is that?? (You weren't upset when you called us that??? And tell me, what did I do to you to deserve that? NOTHING. Not one thing. Not here nor anywhere else. You dished it out and now you can't take it)! I have never called ANYONE a crazy cult before. That is the most insulting thing I could imagine next to being called Satan! Oh my. You're so off base!! YOU have attacked us personally when all we did was try to HELP you! I said absolutely NOTHING about you or anyone else until the attacks started against me. And why can't I defend myself?? For what reason should you be able to bash me all you want and me not be able to respond??
Nunya wrote: The main reason- the way you and the other cohorts PERSONALLY attack folks.. you did it to me when I was still on PCOSLiving.. you sent an email to a friend of yours- who is also my friend- and refered to me (or who you thought was me) as a troll!!
FIRST OF ALL... a person sent me (SENT ME AN EMAIL... not vice versa!) an email specifically asking why YOU were banned from the PCOSLiving site. I told her that IF you were it was by the server owner and not me or anyone else there. (And again, WHY should I not be able to defend myself of accusations that are not true and you should be able to just do and say whatever you want while I do NOTHING to defend myself? The only thing I have said is the TRUTH... period).
I went on to label you as a troll, which is a term that has more meaning than just an ugly short man who lives under a bridge... A troll on the internet is someone who poses as "supportive" or whatever on one website to get info but then goes behind your back to other sites and people and cuts you down (like being all nicey nice on PCOSLiving but going to other websites and calling us names like CULT and what not). That is not just me calling you a name. That is a term that is used on the internet. We have used it for YEARS in the email list and forum world.
By the way, I never called ANYONE else a troll so if you think I don't know who you are yet you're crazy.
Nunya wrote: Name calling- reeeeal mature. You down people's choices if they are not new dawn-
No, I defend myself against people who CUT on ME and other people for OUR choices. You can choose whatever you want. But don't you go calling me names like a CULT behind my back and expect me NOT to come back with the truth. I WILL defend myself and I will tell the truth.
And as for you people who email me and post on my blog and complain about me???? THAT IS WHAT I "DOWN".
ike the stuff you said about 'Weight Watchers' Who are you to tell people they want to be sick because they are trying something other than new dawn.. before you found new dawn- did you want to be sick??
I said that ON MY BLOG and no where else. Because again, this is MY space and where I will talk freely about whatever I want. Did you read the description??? It says if you get offended please DON'T READ IT. But you have not only read it you have posted nasty grams on ALL of our blogs. GET A LIFE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!! Go do your own blog. And stay away from me. Don't come to MY space and cut down what I write. Get over it!
Nunya wrote: Any of you- that goes for Tulin too... It's GREAT you guys love this so much and could afford the test and all-
I can't afford the test. Who ever said I could????????? You are not getting your information from a very reliable source.
Nunya wrote: but it's not right to downgrade others..
And you do it why?? It's right for YOU but it's not right for me to defend myself? Like you should talk. You downgraded and attacked me and I had done NOTHING to you. When I read you referring to me as a cult member I was SHOCKED and horrified because I had done NOTHING against you! You decided that I was bad before I defended myself or stated the truth about any of you. You just think I am going to lay down and say, "okay, go ahead, kick me... I won't fight back..." That is insanity!
Nunya wrote: You claim to be so nice and spiritual- but yet tell people to jump off a cliff, and say evil things.. then talk about being Christ-like of all things.. Well - that's all very interesting.
Again, my blog, my right to write whatever I want. You hurt me with your words on other VERY PUBLIC websites before I ever even realized that you were anything other than a friend and supporter, because you are a mean spirited person, Then you follow me to MY blog and continue to cut me down here???? You people are obsessed. Not going to be happy until you see blood? Yeah, I stand by my words. Go jump off a cliff. I want nothing to do with you. You and anyone else who treats other human beings like this.
Nunya wrote: #3The very reason I got on here- and what all THREE of you say "why come out here and read the blogs, why bother with us...??" Because someone is always saying SOMETHING about it in the regular PCOS boards.. boards that should be SEPARATE from New dawn.
Where??? What are you talking about??? My blog is being talked about on any PCOSA list? That is not the case. You're full of it.
Nunya wrote: PCOSA STILL has the advertisement for New Dawn.. and that's palin WRONG. No one can dispute it though because the president is part of the gleasome-threesome that run this racket.
The entire board of directors approved the ad just like any other ad when someone PAYS the PCOSA to advertise. DUH. The PCOSA has to get money from somewhere, and it isn't getting it from all the people who do NOT support it or bother to join as a paying member. You refer to yourself as a "member" but you're not and you never have been. A list member. A user of all the free resources that are provided. But NOT a supporter. (But then people like that seem to find a way to not only NOT financially support the organization but also to make jobs like MINE more difficult....... you may as well SPIT on me. I have worked for you all for FREE for over 5 years only to turn around to get trampled on by people who don't even help the organization stay alive!!!!)
Are all the other ads on the site wrong too???? You want to PAY to have them all removed? Or you just want to see the organization FAIL because they can't pay their bills?? What have you ever done for them besides bitch?
Nunya wrote: #4Happy with myself.. yes, I sure am. I don't spit on anyone or stab them in the back- how can I when I don't and never had PERSONAL dealing with you??
That is NOT true. You have had the advantage of knowing who I am long before I knew who you were. But now, yes, I know who you are and yes I have personally dealt with and helped you. Do you want to continue to lie about it here?
Nunya wrote: Oh and- I do have a conscience- it tells me to WARN others of this weird group. I have been pretty sucessful too..
Glad you're so proud of making my life difficult. At least you're done denying it. Wierd group? Grow up and go find yourself someone else to harrass.
Nunya wrote: One of you - I think it was Kerim said Marie should 'form a club' well- yeah some of us sort of have.. we support each other- are open to ideas and all questions.. I mean NOTHING, NOTHING is a 100% cure- NOTHING. I dont' care if Ian walks on water with his hat backwards- there are some- me, included that don't buy this whole basis..
So, now you're penalizing ME for what others have said and done? nice!!!!!!!! So, are you all a "wierd group" too? No one is forcing you to buy anything. All we have ever asked was for enough respect for fellow women with PCOS to NOT RIP THEM TO SHREDS just because you disagree with their choices. Yes, that is right. YOU RIPPED US TO SHREDS and you may as well stop denying it. I have the proof. I didn't even know you disagreed until I found the poison you were spewing about me on other sites.
Nunya wrote: #5I have to admit- I don't sleep well at night- but that has to do with my kid not sleeping..
The kid that I wished happy birthday to? How about when I have always been kind to you and even called you "neighbor" since we are? No, you're right. I don't know who you are. Nice though that you're little game has caused others to not like me and attack me because they're sucked in by your lies.
Nunya wrote: #6THREE fingers pointing at ME?? Wow- that's alot of fingers!! Oh- I know- it's the holy trinity of New Dawn.. Tulin, Tarra and Kerim.. I get it- THAT'S PRETTY CLEVER!!!
Oh my... you are out for blood aren't you? That is plain insanity! calling us a cult and now calling us the holy trinity???? Good grief where do you get this stuff? There was no hiden message in my comment about fingers pointing back at you. It means that for everything you are sitting there saying I am so wrong for YOU have done at least 3 things wrong. It means that perhaps you should take a look in the mirror before you cast judgement on others.
Nunya wrote: #7JEALOUS??- now that's the funniest of all.. girll one thing your blog has shown me- is that I have nothing to complain about... I DO feel bad for all you are dealing with- it's horrible and you are really strong to be going through a pregnancy after every thing else- you are.. so for that- I tip my hat..
Nice. You have a kind bone left? Oh, how nice of you. I wouldn't want you to tip your hat at me, thanks.
Nunya wrote: I have done several things that make me proud.. just because people have questions and such- well it doesn't mean they are bored or their life is so bad they have to pick at someone.. why are questions picking on you?? Why don't you just answer them- or not.
What questions have I NOT answered???? WHO are you talking about??? You seem to be accusing me of things that I don't even have any idea WHAT you're talking about!
Nunya wrote: Blog- unfortunately are public- so yes- it's YOUR blog- and yes- of course you can say what you want- but then others can read it pubically and post.. it's just the way it is.
I don't blog for people like YOU to make nasty comments. I blog for people who are nice and who want to read about my inner most feelings without cutting ME down in my own space. It just says more about YOU that you can't stay away when you apparently don't agree with or like anything I have to say.
Nunya wrote: But you all have given me something to think about, in all seriousness... I should start MY OWN blog so I can rip people and criticize freely.. now wouldn't that be FUN!??!
You can do what you want. If you think I will go and read anything else you have written anywhere you're crazy. I read the cult thing ONCE and that was enough. It was like ripping a person's heart out. Someone who is nice to your face and nasty behind your back. NO THANKS. You can write whatever you want about me. I will not be reading it. I will NOT follow you around and cut you down on YOUR blog. I don't play that game. I never have. If you think I have you are severly mistaken. I didn't write about YOU until you singled ME OUT either. THANK YOU for that.
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THE troll above posted:
WHAT?? This is AWESOME- good job at exposing this crazy cult-like group.. I was trying like heck to think of a way to bring this to the news or magazines or something..
I was talking directly with him for some time now- and I also got some stories to tell..
This was good to see..
Thanks!
Posted by: [trolls name removed] at July 13, 2005 12:27 PM
[trolls email address removed]
The above comment was posted on a blog that some are considering to be a “reliable” source of information about A New Dawn. Funny thing is, the author of the blog acknowledges that she has not even read the books.
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The commentor can be found on other forums and blogs posting friendly and kind comments about A NEW DAWN before and after the above comment was posted. This is because she is a two faced back stabbing TROLL.
TROLL is defined, when used regarding internet related actions, as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
a person who posts inflammatory messages intended to cause problems. Internet trolls are people who fish for other people's confidence and, once found, exploit it.
Here are a couple more posts from the same troll.
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| Name: [removed to protect the trolls privacy] http://[removed to protect the trolls privacy] | Date: 2005-06-21 |
| Email: [removed to protect the trolls privacy] | |
Comments: Tulin- u are an inspiration to all Cysters everywhere... thank you for taking it public. I am [detail removed to protect trolls privacy], had been diagnosed with PCOS since 1995 and after a 10 year struggle- I got pregnant with my [child].. Miracle's do happen everyday. I also ordered A New Dawn.. I am excited to try it!
07-18-2005, 12:40 PM
I would prefer to keep things private in those aspects. It does nothing but hurt people to pubically bash, expose and post things about others..
[TOO BAD YOU STARTED THAT ABOUT OTHERS AND ALL ANYONE DID WAS FIGHT BACK AND TRY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, On their OWN blogs and websites!!]
For those wondering.. it appears I have an 'intruder' in my midst- peeping at my info- using it- posting places with it.. It no doubtedly is another 'cyster' because I am getting notes from PCOS boards saying I am trying to 'duplicate' subscribe- and often that means someone is poking aorund in my information.. I don't know..
[THIS WAS PROVEN TO BE A LIE.... THIS 'CYSTER' IS THE TROLL]
posted by ~ Tarra ~ @ 3:34 PM
6 Comments:
At 4:37 PM,
Kerim said…
Tell Georgia to get a life, will you? How you put up with some of these people is really amazing. You are right, YOU are the only one who helps them who doesn't get paid. They shell out money to doctors, meds, whatever but the one person who works for the tirelessly they just crap on. Loads of love for you and Matt both for being saintly on this matter.
At 4:42 PM,
Tulin said…
It is a sick sick world Tarra. I am so sorry that you have now been targeted.
It is the PCOS talking, I am sorry that she is dealing with it. I hope she finds the peace and comfort she needs.
As for you Tarra, again, you are pregnant and this is not necessary. This person is more clueless than I thought.
Take care of yourself and ignore them. I think they want you to hurt like them. It is up to you to allow them to do it or not.
I still do really feel for her, I do. I hope she gets well. She seemed nice... at one time.
At 10:11 PM,
~ MATT ~ said…
My god, I can't believe what people will say to bring others down. It is sad when people who think they are of sound mind put this much effort into putting down what they seem to want nothing to do with. How does that work anyway?? If they don’t think along the same lines, go some where you may actually do some good. I am not a doctor but I would say they have some serious issues. If they don’t have good things to say they should leave. It is as easy as that. Is it so hard to figure out?? The picture is quite clear, depending on how well you do read, these people have no point. The fact that they will take time out of there day to do this and try to break the spirit of others that are working for a good cause is some what disturbing. Tarra I just hope you keep your head up and help who want help. These people don’t deserve your time. I don't see how you can put up with it.
At 1:17 AM,
TracyDK said…
I don't understand why someone would come on under a false name and start harrassing your journal all because they felt mistreated on a website that you participate in, but have no authority over. It makes no sense to me. If she's really so upset because she can't ask her questions publically online, why doesn't she just send Ian an email and see how he responds. Gee...No ONE has knocked me because I'm not doing the diet, nor am I booking a test yet. I still feel supported by everyone, because you ALL understand, that not everyone has the funds available UPFRONT for the test and that not everyone can do the elimination diet. And even though I'm doing it a different way, I'm progressing and I'll eventually get my body honed enough to feel when something triggers me. And eventually I'll have the money saved up to take the test. But for someone to be so bitter and yet not responsible enough for her own words, makes me wonder just how their personal life is going. She sounds very unhappy. :( That makes me very sad.
At 5:10 PM,
Jenny said…
It's unfortunate that viciousness is a trait some people allow themselves to have. They can justify it in their minds all they want, coming up with contortion upon contortion of reasoning that make it ok for this behaviour to be a part of their lives. BUT -- it all comes down to reasonableness. Does it seem reasonable to listen to someone when their emotions are clearly not in check? No. Does it seem reasonable that if a person disagrees with another person's choices for their own life that it should come down to personal attacks and insults? No. People who are willing to jump in and feed off of someone like that aren't worth your time. Anyone who is of a reasonable nature will certainly weed out the rantings of someone who is obviously not in a balanced frame of mind. I hope that this is a thought you can take some solace from.
I don't know you but I've been following your blog for some time and you seem like a kind and giving person who doesn't deserve to be attacked like this.
At 8:35 PM,
~ Tarra ~ said…
A troll posted:
WHAT?? This is AWESOME- good job at exposing this crazy cult-like group.. I was trying like heck to think of a way to bring this to the news or magazines or something..
I was talking directly with him for some time now- and I also got some stories to tell..
This was good to see..
Thanks!
Posted by: [trolls name removed] at July 13, 2005 12:27 PM
[trolls email address removed]
The above comment was posted on a blog that some are considering to be a “reliable” source of information about A New Dawn. Funny thing is, the author of the blog acknowledges that she has not even read the books.
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The commentor can be found on other forums and blogs posting friendly and kind comments about A NEW DAWN before and after the above comment was posted. This is because she is a two faced back stabbing TROLL.
TROLL is defined, when used regarding internet related actions, as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
a person who posts inflammatory messages intended to cause problems. Internet trolls are people who fish for other people's confidence and, once found, exploit it.
Here are a couple more posts from the same troll.
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Name: [removed to protect the trolls privacy] http://[removed to protect the trolls privacy] Date: 2005-06-21
Email: [removed to protect the trolls privacy]
Comments: Tulin- u are an inspiration to all Cysters everywhere... thank you for taking it public. I am [detail removed to protect trolls privacy], had been diagnosed with PCOS since 1995 and after a 10 year struggle- I got pregnant with my [child].. Miracle's do happen everyday. I also ordered A New Dawn.. I am excited to try it!
07-18-2005, 12:40 PM
I would prefer to keep things private in those aspects. It does nothing but hurt people to pubically bash, expose and post things about others..
[TOO BAD YOU STARTED THAT ABOUT OTHERS AND ALL ANYONE DID WAS FIGHT BACK AND TRY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, On their OWN blogs and websites!!]
For those wondering.. it appears I have an 'intruder' in my midst- peeping at my info- using it- posting places with it.. It no doubtedly is another 'cyster' because I am getting notes from PCOS boards saying I am trying to 'duplicate' subscribe- and often that means someone is poking aorund in my information.. I don't know..
[THIS WAS PROVEN TO BE A LIE.... THIS 'CYSTER' IS THE TROLL]
Yes yes yes, Trolls are LOVELY people!
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